onsdag 12 oktober 2016

Carbon Dating of Turin Shroud and Hacking and Conventional vs Creationist Dating


Creation vs. Evolution : 1) C14 Calibrations, comparing two preliminary ones, mine and Tas Walker's · 2) Radioactive Methods Revisited, Especially C-14 · 3) What Some of You are Thinking / Ce que certains de vous sont en train de penser · Great Bishop of Geneva! : 4) Carbon Dating of Turin Shroud and Hacking and Conventional vs Creationist Dating · Creation vs. Evolution : 5) A Fault in my Tables? A Plan for Improvement? · 6) Pre-Flood Biomass and More · 7) Advantages of a Shorter Carbon 14 Chronology · 8) Hasn't Carbon 14 been Confirmatively Calibrated for Ages Beyond Biblical Chronology? By Tree Rings? · HGL's F.B. writings : 9) Comparing with Gerardus D. Bouw Ph. D., Debating with Roger M Pearlman on Chronology · 10) Continuing with Pearlman, Especially on Göbekli Tepe and Dating of Ice Age

These are actually three subjects, the one common to both others being that of hacking. Excuse my looseness today.

The Shroud of Turin : Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (1)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by.html


Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (2)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by_20.html


Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker? (3)
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/02/were-radiocarbon-laboratories-duped-by_22.html


Quoting:

[Above (click to enlarge): Schematic of the Accelerator Mass Spectrometry (AMS) radiocarbon dating system at the University of Arizona in 2005. Note the "Control Console" bottom left next to the photo of a computer. While this is presumably not the actual system used to radiocarbon date the Shroud of Turin in 1988, that 1981 system is apparently still operational. And as we shall see below, both then and now it is the computer which that actually reports a sample's radiocarbon date.]


Were the radiocarbon dating laboratories duped by a computer hacker?: Summary
http://theshroudofturin.blogspot.com/2014/03/were-radiocarbon-dating-laboratories.html


I came across the blog while searching first for this:

CreationEvolutionDesign : Ancient skull found in Ethiopia
http://creationevolutiondesign.blogspot.com/2006/03/ancient-skull-found-in-ethiopia.html


And also finding this:

phys . org : Taung Child's skull and brain not human-like in expansion
August 25, 2014
http://phys.org/news/2014-08-taung-child-skull-brain-human-like.html


Back to hacking of computers.

In october and november 2015, I was extensively using an online computer in which I could insert % of C14 left and get age, insert age in years and get %.

Now, I used this to recalibrate within the Biblical chronology. You see, there are TWO ways of reading such a "reading".

12.5% can get me three halflives as age of an object holding now 12.5% - if I believe it has 100% when alive.

But 12.5% can also get me three halflives as evolutionary extra years (more years than real age) of an object holding 12.5% back when dying.

91% (or sth, eighth root of 0.5 or 1/2, corresponding to 1/8 times the number of years for a halflife) obviously can get me and does get me 716 point sth years (the computer programme showed 730, but that was perhaps with calibrations) since an object alive as man, beast or plant 716 years (or 730 years) ago had about 100% of the present C14 level. But it can also give the number of extra years on objects alive more than 1000 years earlier. Namely back when the athmosphere was at a level of 91% of present C14, at the end of the rise, before we get fully useful datings.

  • Now, perhaps some somewhat incompetent had been afraid I had been fooled by a hacked computer. No, I had only used the non-hacked computer programme in an unexpected and not by its setters online intended way.

  • Or perhaps they had been afraid I would hack the computer programme if they left it accessible online. Or that my work would be used for a future hacking. NOT my intention.

  • Or perhaps the programme went offline as a result of a hacking, but then it would be up again ...

    http://dwb4.unl.edu/Chem/CHEM869Z/CHEM869ZLinks/www.all.mq.edu.au/online/edu/egypt/carbdate.htm

    Not Found

    The requested URL /Chem/CHEM869Z/CHEM869ZLinks/www.all.mq.edu.au/online/edu/egypt/carbdate.htm was not found on this server.
    Apache Server at dwb4.unl.edu Port 80


    ... it is not.


So my remaining most favourite theory about why the link went down is, whoever had put it up would not want to use it for anything other than conventional dating in ages, and was shocked at someone else doing so and opted for a more opaque scientific community than it was back in 2015.

You see, with this observation, unlike hacking of computer for one dating or series of such - some Commie not liking Shroud of Turin to be genuine - a Creationist need not invoke systematic hacking of computers to doubt the "pre-Biblical" ages.

Hans Georg Lundahl
Nanterre UL
Saints Evagrius, Priscian
and Companions, Martyrs
12.X.2016

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